12:58:55 Doug.
12:58:56 i.
12:58:58 How are things pretty good.
12:59:41 Hi, Ernie.
12:59:48 You're muted Arnie
12:59:53 that else.
12:59:56 You guys don't
13:00:00 do nothing.
13:00:09 Yeah, Work with Ronald.
13:00:08 Oh yeah.
13:00:08 Yeah, finishing a test done and plasma fusion ran 42,000 amps through a superconducting cable yesterday.
13:00:17 Oh, yeah. At 20 Kelvin.
13:00:21 Okay, well,
13:00:25 that's even high for for a superconductor yeah there's a high temperature super guys probably the highest highest type of lead like that ever made. So, yeah, We have a 50,000 and power supply.
13:00:45 Is this first Spark.
13:00:47 Yeah. Okay, yeah, it's not for rock bass magnet. Yeah, yeah. So we're gonna put the test magnet in, and everything went perfect in the world. They're hoping to hit 21 Tesla.
13:00:58 Yeah.
13:01:02 But, myself, my part of a crystal Adele and I've been working on it for the last year and a half. So, yeah, two years, and so it went pretty well. We made the main chamber we made the high voltage power supply.
13:01:17 Our high current.
13:01:18 And then that I helped design a cryogenic system. Yeah.
13:01:25 So,
13:01:34 it was fun because it was all private money so we could just go out and buy stuff
13:01:57 There's no bidding or anything else. Yes, it was like, going into a port as a sailor with money.
13:02:06 They're making good progress they actually broke ground on a place out on Fort Devon's out on route to where they were going to put the magnet factory and the machine
13:02:17 seen pictures of construction site it's pretty impressive. Yeah, it's a tokamak.
13:02:23 Yes.
13:02:31 So, interesting.
13:02:36 It's interesting.
13:02:42 So how's the weather up in British Columbia cooled off for you.
13:02:52 I forget it tells me I can join with turn on my video, it doesn't tell me I have to turn on my audio. Yeah, we're back to normal, but the forest fires are pretty bad we're getting dry lightning, they've got 200 and some odd fires burning, half of them
13:03:06 under out of control, the hotspot in Canada, let that said all these records train went through last Wednesday they think it started a fire and burned down the whole village.
13:03:17 So, how did things start the fires. They think that the CN didn't clear that the brush along the tracks and there may have been some sparks somebody I saw on TV somebody had a picture of a train with a bit of fire on under one of the cars on their cell
13:03:34 phone, but I don't know whether that was caused by the fire whether that caused the fire they haven't announced it officially yet out to people died so it could have been worse, but it's pretty terrible is this man is, I mean it just in golf the town
13:04:00 And then he went down to the railroad track because when not room in this trench, and apparently power lines came down on top of the other way they had a metal cover on it, or whatnot, or they they came down and they died.
13:04:12 So I don't think was a fire I think they were electrocuted
13:04:17 so awful. He survived.
13:04:23 Well we got cool rainy weather here in Boston. Yeah.
13:04:38 60s.
13:04:36 So John's not joining today is already still in Germany. He said he wouldn't likely be able to join, but I was actually hoping Ross would show up.
13:04:47 Jim said he was going to show to on Jim's on. Okay, I just didn't have it. Yeah, yeah, and over enough. And,
13:05:00 yeah, I know I I would expect some more of the Canadians, like Jeff and maybe know Jeff and Richard said they were busy with meeting this week and maybe next week.
13:05:14 Yeah, yeah, that's right, so they won't be joining today I'm pretty sure. Okay then maybe we can get started.
13:05:22 And I hope, Ross shows up.
13:05:26 Marianne Did you have anything that any update on calculations since Yon isn't here.
13:05:34 Now we were supposed to meet. But this is a journey and we're going to delete this to next week.
13:05:40 So maybe next week some updates button this one.
13:05:44 Okay, good.
13:05:47 I'm Jim you want to just report but all the main that surrounded the HVRL Wow.
13:05:56 Yeah, no I mean everything we collected, we the only thing we didn't get was the stand. So we collected all the other equipment from the HVRL and it's in the warehouse, we haven't really looked at it carefully.
13:06:08 Or, you know, try to start in anything up.
13:06:11 But at some point if you want to come up we can take a look at it and figure out what we want to do next. Yeah.
13:06:17 Richard Do you want me to do a power test and see what that magnet saturates that. Yeah, that would be good.
13:06:25 That's fairly straightforward. Yeah, thanks Arnie. The other thing about the test experiment, it.
13:06:34 I mean, we need to obviously divide define it.
13:06:37 But if there are any hardware items that you think we need to purchase, to let us know maybe like, I don't know. We have a power supply for the, for the magnet for example or.
13:06:49 No, should we get we have a full complement of things like that. Should we order files for the target. So I don't know if she could make a list of hardware I'm assuming it's like all not that much money but if you could make, given the apparatus that
13:07:05 we took out of the SPL and assuming that we can modify that to be a test experiment What, what, what additional is needed you know to purchase or whatever procure, if you could, if you could kind of think about that Bernie.
13:07:23 Yeah.
13:07:23 Turbo pumps and controllers for for the scattering chamber.
13:07:29 Yeah, okay, well, you will see all about that but maybe try and can provide a turbo palm you know i don't know we should make a list of what's needed and then decide who can get it or.
13:07:43 But
13:07:48 yeah, I think I would start also with what's missing. You know what, once you got your list identify what's missing and then we can go to try it and see if we can borrow it.
13:08:06 Exactly, exactly. Yeah, so before it before you start to purchase I think we should see if Trump has stuff that they can give us because yeah i mean i think it's more right now let's, as you say, Make a list see what's missing. What can we borrow or something.
13:08:14 But, but I want to be ready if we can, you know, to launch this test, once we bought we all have to agree on what it is and sign off on it but it would be good to know how much funding or what funds are needed.
13:08:29 Good.
13:08:33 I'd like to ask about magnetic field monitoring again a couple of weeks ago I bought this up and it was said that there is no plan to actively monitor the magnetic field strength, all the time.
13:08:54 that the current readout really give us an accurate measure of the stability of the magnetic field.
13:09:05 I've seen cases where a power supply you know where you measure the current have a power supply, you know as and.
13:09:14 And you're measuring the voltage across the resistor I guess and if something had different ways we do it. We yeah that's one way it was the voltage across the shot resistor that sometimes can vary with temperature, but we also have zero flux transformers,
13:09:30 we stick on these things and we can you know we've had systems here where we were running.
13:09:36 Measuring 10 minus six, we were measured ppm current levels, you know, We can set currents and then, you know, the magnetic field if you're going to tell, I don't know what the what the accuracy, it needs to be.
13:09:51 But, you know, I'm sure. 10 minus three is easy. Yeah.
13:10:00 So do we need to get equipment to do that or power supplies are pretty good at this point, if you, if you current setup.
13:10:10 If we need to get an external CT, we have some around the lab, but you can buy them there on the order. Five 600 bucks from GMW.
13:10:22 I mean the setting up once we fixed the magnet and we have a power supply. I mean, can we set up to just do a test in the lab and have a measure I don't know a halt bro yeah absolutely Bobby Bobby you Bruce to do this for four days and see what happens.
13:10:37 You know, if I guess we need, we need to spec, how good it has to be and then we have to have a device that could I just don't have a feeling for what are my I don't either.
13:10:50 But I, but we're not a critical thing but you know it's it's certainly a reasonable question to ask and it's certainly something we should clarify.
13:11:00 What about an MMR system as well.
13:11:03 Yeah, but I mean that's the standard way of doing this but that, you know, you need to know the absolute value we need to know this for, you know, that's the place I just don't know I'm not a physicist.
13:11:15 I mean I I was trained on a tandem where we had an animal or to measure the match the energy of the beam and all of that, and.
13:11:24 But I, my gut instinct is I don't think we need to know what that well needs to be stable, to some level, but, but let's, let's think about it. I mean, I'll try and pass some expertise in that area we've used it on other systems, but okay no that's good,
13:11:40 that's good to know.
13:11:44 Let's don't think we get tired of my six accuracy though.
13:11:51 I don't think we need it I tend to the minus three is probably planning.
13:11:55 The I'm just looking at, there were 10 ppm. The ones, the easy ones to get, which the probe is a, it's a, It's a CT, you're on a cable through it.
13:12:08 What some people are you but I'm stupid transformer.
13:12:09 Oh, so So what, so this measure the current in the cable.
13:12:14 Is that right, yeah.
13:12:17 Yeah, don't you were really worried about the field, aren't we, the magnetic field in the magnet. Well the current the furnace isn't going to change. If you just add AI is going to give you the field.
13:12:28 Okay, did you know it was during the field once but once you measure the field once and then if you're measuring the current that's going to change.
13:12:39 Yeah, you do need to measure it once. So, I mean, I just in this whole discussion I think we, you know, will hear from judging she's working on the magnetic field calculation and in the end, we do need to understand the magnetic field well, to understand
13:12:55 the focusing properties and transport properties into the focal plane, think.
13:13:04 So we need to feel map the map map, presenting the magnet has to be mad.
13:13:11 Yeah, I still feel better, we could actually measure the magnetic field from time to time.
13:13:18 Yeah, Ya know that that's fair i think that's reasonable with an external measurement, so not measuring in the poor but having a magnetometer outside it where there's some field, be okay by your that I have.
13:13:33 Okay.
13:13:34 I've done all that kind of stuff on Proton Therapy systems and stuff. One of the problems with that is, you know, if you're not in the main field you don't get a good you know if you don't have a high level, sometimes movement of the pro makes a difference.
13:13:47 And you're, if you're measuring in a French field. Yeah. And then the other problem is is on some of these probes that we used.
13:13:57 They would break down over time.
13:14:00 In radiation.
13:14:13 Now, and so their sensitivity would change over time, or they would, you know, some of them are temperature compensated the ones from Central are the ones we used at MIT. But, you know, you gotta pay attention to which one you're buying to make sure its
13:14:17 temperature compensated and everything else. So you're just measuring background temperatures.
13:14:25 I think somebody should add a section and the TV or on this, I mean just pose the questions or. I just captured this discussion, so that we can. We don't forget it.
13:14:36 We don't come back in three weeks and have the same discussion so the thing, capturing the points here was good, and then try to try to follow them up see what is possible leader at MIT or a triumph or anywhere else.
13:14:51 Yeah, if people are interested I bought 99% of the stuff from a company called GMW associates in California, and they sell. They sell all kinds of current probes magnetic probes readouts everything.
13:15:09 Great. Stan Do you want to take the lead on just write that up for Okay, I'll do that. That'd be great. Thanks. Yeah, I think it's good you brought it up.
13:15:17 Yeah. So, so he and I asked magnetic probes or what I've used here.
13:15:24 Those are very, very good.
13:15:28 Are they say, yeah, I mean it might be that you know we're gonna have a workshop and measure it and talk about doing other things, it might be like that other other measurements that really do need it, you know, I think we're all focused on looking for
13:15:44 new physics beyond the standard model but there might be a set of classic measurements that are really interesting that would need it, you know, so I think exploring it at this point looking at options.
13:16:01 Okay.
13:16:03 Ching Do you want to add anything on magnetic fields or have you got your magnet codes running yet yeah I got the Maxwell and some Sarita answers Maxwell working on the virtual machine so I can share
13:16:23 this window.
13:16:29 Okay. can you see the visualization of.
13:16:33 Yeah.
13:16:35 Great. So, yeah, this is the CD file model of the coils and y'all can pose. So I figured out a battle with the field, which is, I can take a random plan and plot.
13:16:57 The lead actors in that plan.
13:17:02 So basically.
13:17:15 This lets me make the coils in this book for better.
13:17:13 Yeah, so just to remind everyone that this two parts. The Secret parts all posts leech off which live materials is still, and this other part is the York.
13:17:30 So if we look at the directors in this intersection.
13:17:41 So, the those the color and the size of the this cons represent the magnitude of the, of the back to.
13:17:58 It also use a magnitude prod to the part to this distribution, maybe for better or into a more interactive way to say it. Yeah, I mean I was going to make the comment that you shouldn't be seeing any real appreciable field outside the yolk.
13:18:18 You know, which you don't.
13:18:20 This in this region you shouldn't be seeing much.
13:18:26 Oh, they're very small actually. So, this is not in log scale, actually.
13:18:31 Yeah, I mean, in Knoxville, yeah.
13:18:36 This to be about what I expect. Let me see. So, half a Tesla. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, in the center we have around point three, which is around three points or two wishes.
13:18:53 As expected, I guess.
13:18:56 So, if we zoom in.
13:19:04 Yeah so me a little bit.
13:19:08 Okay so here is a region, like between the two posts where the field is pretty uniform.
13:19:17 And inside the post. and also the York, we see this district we don't care about that we don't get our last question was why we see a drop or decrease of the be filled inside the polls, or the stills.
13:19:37 I think the answer. based on this,
13:19:41 this intersection
13:19:53 field mapping is that it depends on along this axis, we, we do the projects for. So, so I observed that there is a relatively low field region in the pole and also high field region so this actually this other magnitude, but to be magnitude.
13:20:10 If we look at the batter's.
13:20:14 Yeah.
13:20:17 For this hot spots, they are mostly along the parallel, or the horizontal plan. So, if they only care about the Bz Bz amplitude.
13:20:35 I want to suggest right now, that when I look at the Saturation levels of this, I could have gone up to like 1.2 Tesla, before I saturated that steel.
13:20:50 This looks totally reasonable from magnetic design standpoint. Yes, and I understand exactly why it would be going because your, your current lines are going from all the way from the left hand side.
13:21:01 And so you're just adding them up so of course it's going to get more as you go through, but this is this is a totally reasonable magnet if you want to make it more uniform.
13:21:09 There's tricks we can do with the polls to make it more uniform. I also want to see the cut going through this other backlink. So, at the nine, you know, this other leg at the bottom.
13:21:22 I can't really scribble on this.
13:21:26 We can move this plan, I wanted to twit yeah I want it that way. Because I want to see house, how thick, I guessed on a thickness over at the left hand side.
13:21:38 For a decent return
13:21:48 me.
13:21:50 This corruption.
13:21:59 No, I need to go through the steel above. Yeah, this. We can do this at some other time with all these people, right there.
13:22:06 Nothing here looked unreasonable to me.
13:22:09 Yeah, so I know that I need a plan like parallel to these two, two, yeah.
13:22:22 Yeah right down the middle of that so yeah that would be useful. we can do this separately just you and I.
13:22:24 Today I don't have it but it should be very easy to put one here.
13:22:29 Yeah, I just use rule of thumb stick to be able to make the return yoke I spent, not a lot of time doing this, but it, you know, that point successful it's totally reasonable to me.
13:22:42 So, I have a question. Is this the magnet, Ernie that you designed for that we use in the proposal is this what I think this is the one I designed. Yes, yes.
13:22:50 Okay, okay, this is the one okay.
13:22:58 And to be honest I spent, you know, not very long on it. And so I understand it wasn't finalized but I just want to know what would even call it what we're looking at.
13:23:02 So, is are the calculations you're getting now just saying, Are they similar to what we had for the proposal or are they different or they're the same.
13:23:14 They're the same before. So, my other. So, what I can conclude from this study is that the distribution inside the poor really depends on the geometry of the York, and also the.
13:23:31 If we do if we want to do the comparison we really need to compare the exactly same spot. So we think our previous comparison.
13:23:40 Let me switch to my slide and last time.
13:23:46 My, our previous study which is compare my previous, the field, versus Ricardo version.
13:23:56 Actually, this didn't tell anything because of two reasons one is that the yolk geometry is started different from this to this were using to actually two different magnets, so that definite live will cost the difference in the, the field distribution
13:24:13 inside this through or inside your costume.
13:24:19 So, secondly, we have different coordinate setup, which means is tricky to really find the exactly same spots to do this comparison. So actually this to pause, didn't really tell anything.
13:24:36 So we just fought forgot about this comparison and in order to do a real comparison. I'm put putting important this CD file into opera 3d, and trying to see what we will have similar to this plots.
13:25:03 In order to see whether the gods consistent reason.
13:25:08 Right. Yeah but based on this maximal analysis. This is our current understanding that we do have this drop inside the pope inside the pole week region.
13:25:26 Like, it's worth what are you talking about.
13:25:28 So if you,
13:25:32 if you look at if you, if you compare the region.
13:25:41 The V fields, between, between the pose, which is the, this uniform region, compare the V field here versus inside the Unreal. One is B and one is H, and they are, I think, I'm flawed and and he just this, this looks exactly like I would imagine, because
13:26:04 if you dragged in the field lights coming up from the center, they're going to curve to the outside and go down the red lines in both ways. So to imagine having a blue line there you go you don't you don't expect b&h to be the same in the steel and in
13:26:19 the gap.
13:26:21 Yes, because this answers the question from Ricardo that why we see that decrease.
13:26:30 Okay. No. Okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah, but that wouldn't have. Okay, I understand.
13:26:38 But I had nothing. This looks totally reasonable from a magnet standpoint.
13:26:42 I mean, this looks really smoke, with our, our the styles and magnets so right. And I can do stuff. What I'd want to know is across the gap from left to right at the mid plane.
13:26:55 What's Delta be over be, because I can put in a little shims to make it better. And I can put in a personal gap to make it better. I just didn't Canadians.
13:27:07 You mean the gradients or this resolve across the gap so left to right at the mid plane.
13:27:13 These Yeah, I want to know Delta be over be.
13:27:17 And I do stuff to extend it out. Yeah, so it's a good field regions here, I can do tricks to make it wider easily. Yeah, I just did.
13:27:27 Yes.
13:27:30 I think I've got that one the production in my previous result and good to you.
13:27:40 Yeah, we did see a small gradients around this direction, not be but we do have it any other question is, is it doing this, is it skewed.
13:27:55 Yes, so I based on what I record, we have.
13:28:02 If we only look at the Bz.
13:28:07 Actually we don't have large PX of UI components in this this region. Okay. So if we look at bzh indeed.
13:28:20 In a decrease or increase in pattern within the region.
13:28:24 So what
13:28:34 exaggerated.
13:28:36 Yes. Blow out at the side.
13:28:38 Yeah, I can, I can serve you. That's correct. shocker. Yeah.
13:28:43 We can do this separate for everybody
13:28:49 on this call tonight.
13:28:52 But I guess you are interested in. You mean the the direction on this, this Yeah, because I want to know in a steel on the right hand side, whether that's the same point six Tesla is at higher lower.
13:29:06 That was my question on this.
13:29:09 Yeah right in there, the steel. The, the leg that goes up and down.
13:29:14 Yeah, I see.
13:29:19 Okay.
13:29:25 We are details that are needed. Yeah, I had a question do you do you have everything you need for the opera 3d now to move on.
13:29:33 Yes, if it's running it can run on the Windows laptop.
13:29:39 In our lab laptop now is in more as is their state because we got another desktop in window system in the lab to control everything so that laptop is good for us.
13:29:54 And it's also a mighty property. Okay.
13:29:58 I think I will run over city on that computer. Good.
13:30:03 I'm trying to find some tutorial.
13:30:06 Yeah, 3d. I haven't used it in a long time but I do know, I didn't know how to use it the problem you can have is making the coils, that's going to be the hardest part.
13:30:16 Okay.
13:30:17 But I would suggest that you get a sat file and import that and not try to draw this in their, in their program.
13:30:27 But that's me.
13:30:28 I just bring in the geometry from somebody else should I be able to import this CAD file in a presser do not. Yes, the sap file for the, for the steel.
13:30:45 I don't know at this point used to have to draw the conductor itself that's our question for Ricardo. And up until version 50 and you still had to drop conductors, and it's the most miserable thing you've ever done.
13:30:55 Yeah, unless it looks like the little race track or the, the ones at the can programs they have
13:31:02 your agenda j lab.
13:31:04 Yes.
13:31:06 Okay, I'm gonna give you a name is named I'll send it to you but his name's pro bear. Okay. He's an absolute expert at the program, up, down and sideways, and he's a very nice guy.
13:31:18 Oh, that will be so helpful in the magnetic group. Okay okay I'll reach out.
13:31:24 I'll send us email. Okay, thank you. I'll make I'll what I'll do is I'll make an introduction.
13:31:30 Great. That sounds good.
13:31:33 Thanks.
13:31:36 Yeah, it's kind of tricky to find that really helpful or useful tutorial online. Nice.
13:31:46 program.
13:31:48 Yeah, just happened to give the right answers.
13:31:51 Okay.
13:31:53 Yeah, I appreciate it.
13:31:56 Okay and running it on the computer in the lab is is okay it's not inconvenient.
13:32:05 It's okay. I mean it's pretty convenient. Okay.
13:32:08 Yeah.
13:32:11 Okay. Anything else on magnet for magnetic field or calculations.
13:32:20 Okay then Ross.
13:32:24 Yes, wiki.
13:32:28 Yeah, so I think we've settled on using the,
13:32:33 the wiki on the GitHub, and the reasoning there was to make it so that single access is all you need to be a member of the dark light community, and you don't have to have multiple separate things
13:32:52 to authenticate.
13:32:54 Just one Prudential.
13:32:56 So I've started putting some stuff there.
13:33:09 Mostly the meeting minutes and I will do that for these as well.
13:33:09 But we'll start pulling more off of the old dark life.
13:33:08 So I think a lot of it is not intended to be moving the old stuff it's just for this experiment will work with this new place and we'll move things upon request.
13:33:21 So, I mean I can show you where it is, but there's still a great deal of work to be done.
13:33:28 Oh, let me pull up a screen I can just do the zeros order tutorial.
13:33:44 So here's the wiki.
13:33:47 github. com. This is the dark side experiment which hopefully folks who are interested in participating in the wiki or the
13:33:56 code base have reached out to either me or Yon, let us know what your GitHub name is. We can help you find a good up, make a GitHub account it's not hard, it's just go to github.com make yourself an account.
13:34:09 com make yourself an account. So one of our repos is the wiki.
13:34:13 And this is because we we needed a place to put the images and presentations and other things like that that go into the wiki itself which is wiki wiki.
13:34:22 So, this is it, it's hosted on GitHub. And right now the the main content here is minutes from various meetings.
13:34:31 So here they are. And if I want to search this it's nice it's all one long text file, and we go to the Indigo pages and pull up the presentations, etc.
13:34:45 Yon isn't here, but we wanted to bring up the question of the transcripts and the
13:34:57 zoom recordings about whether this is.
13:35:02 I don't know what's the right word.
13:35:06 Wow. Is it useful, I think it's useful so that people can that aren't able to attend the main meeting can go back and pick it up, but I think what the issue is, if people, like, what should change just showing a whole bunch of plots of the magnetic field
13:35:32 that shows up on the zoom video.
13:35:37 But you probably want pictures and other images presentations to be on the wiki.
13:35:45 Yep, or in the Indigo we want like static images that we can come back to yeah you want static game images and I think it's better to have those on the wiki and with the minutes or whatever.
13:36:00 I did feel a few screen grabs for what it's worth, you know, only representative.
13:36:08 Yeah.
13:36:10 There's also you're talking about whether having these audio recordings in it publicly facing world, I guess.
13:36:17 All of them it is publicly facing if that might be internal deliberations that we don't actually want to have folks, able to just come across. Right.
13:36:27 Yeah, just so everyone knows. They Indigo pages are open to the public. Yeah, as you can see here I have not logged in. So now I can pull up these zoom recordings, just anyone can.
13:36:43 Yeah, yeah.
13:36:49 So, so
13:36:49 that's not desired. One thing we had talked about is keeping the recordings, you know, for a month or two and then just going back and mixing the old recording so that anybody who wants to be involved in our discussion can see these things but they're
13:37:03 not, you know, it there for posterity six months down the line. Yeah, I agree with that.
13:37:08 And you know like what you're saying tro today is informal, you know, I think there has to be face space to do informal things sort of just, yeah. Too much document.
13:37:17 Yeah, I think just a little bit of common sense.
13:37:22 A few weeks is all we need and, you know, there has to be some threshold a post slides and things but there's also room on on discussions for people to just quickly show stuff.
13:37:34 I was asked to be the opportunity to record the cloud, and post the link just on the wiki and not have it on the IndyCar, and only us would be able to access these recordings.
13:37:46 Yeah, other other places to record this is that isn't public. The, the GitHub repo is not the right place to put giant zoom recordings, I'm sure, certainly would be linked to the zoom.com website on.
13:38:01 Yeah, I, yeah, I can do that, great effort from preferred.
13:38:09 I can also make the Indigo sites private.
13:38:14 This is the ns Phoenix This is the ongoing struggle of. We do want people to be able to come in and see these things won't be able to share these documents and we need to but we also do need the ability for private deliberation so I don't know what the
13:38:27 right balance there is now for a smaller collaboration it's probably easier for us to manage it in private. But the other. The other option is for for static documents or for presentations we can put them in this in the GitHub repo here.
13:38:47 And this is anything in GitHub is private us. So if you have a presentation, we can upload it here instead of the, the indigo, that's an option.
13:38:58 If it's sensitive or.
13:39:04 No.
13:39:06 Um, yeah. The other thing I, you know, for the people that use GitHub, this is probably fairly easy to access. But for those that aren't familiar with your shop.
13:39:20 I think there is some instruction document required yeah i'm uh i'm, I'm working on this. So, if, if someone who hasn't used get up before would like to come and try to add something to the wiki.
13:39:33 I would be happy to talk through it with you and the be a nice way to fill in this this red link, which is red because it doesn't exist.
13:39:40 And it's really straightforward, you know, it takes a nap and an hour you'll be a pro.
13:39:50 Five minutes of your pro but half an hour we'll be on the phone anymore.
13:39:56 Okay. All right.
13:39:58 Any questions about GitHub, or
13:40:06 stand Do you want to volunteer to try that out when you when you've written up your be field discussion.
13:40:15 Stan you're muted.
13:40:21 Yeah, I've never used get up before so this might be a steep learning curve for me.
13:40:40 Is it
13:40:31 the TD or is on Overleaf isn't it i mean that's a different thing. Yeah. So, yeah, no need to go on get hung up about the magnetic, I mean, are you okay with overly Stan is that something he ever used that before either but okay I've got to learn.
13:40:47 Yeah.
13:40:50 Yeah. Oh really calm, make yourself a free account because pretty straightforward sorry if you can hear the pump in the background here.
13:41:01 It's an online latex thing Stan I used it, it's not it's not it's a very short learning curve.
13:41:08 Have you used latex then yeah I have. Oh, then, then you'll have no problem, it'll, it'll it easy.
13:41:26 You should have been shared you the dog like core, the link was sent to dark like course so you may already have the link. Yeah, but if you can't get it just let us know.
13:41:41 And don't worry about playing with it because it keeps keeps our history so if things get messed up, we can always recover.
13:41:49 Yeah.
13:41:52 I'm actually.
13:41:53 But if there's no other questions about GitHub.
13:41:57 We've got a whole bunch of mail addresses for dark light that are historical from, from when it was a j loud proposal and all the rest.
13:42:14 Personally I would delete all of the all the old ones and just keep the, the main.
13:42:21 This group.
13:42:24 Oh you're talking about trimming out old names on the mailing list. Well I'm, I'm going to delete the mailing list. Okay.
13:42:34 Yeah, I think it's fine. I don't see any way we can always add people to this list. Yeah, we can add people to this list but I I keep on getting messages from the old list.
13:42:49 Yep.
13:42:51 Because it's easy to type.
13:42:54 Dark light@mit.edu and. Yep.
13:42:59 Yeah, No, that's fine. Go ahead. Okay, good.
13:43:02 Okay. Let's see the other thing is the funding requests that, you know, been sent around. But, Richard. Yeah, so it seemed like I mean I've certainly I haven't got funded myself but have attended things that were funded by it so it seems like there's
13:43:24 support for doing it so I'm not particularly eager to it, to do it myself so Jaan read to my answered so I don't know what Mike you're on what do you think,
13:43:41 I I don't think I have time to do it and I've never done it before, but it sounds like others have done it and I think Yon had sort of said that he or Ross were interested in doing it.
13:43:54 Yeah, no, I think that'd be great but I do you, I think having a Canadian Cole bi or, I don't know, would be good.
13:44:04 Bi or, I don't know, would be good. I don't know, you know, proposing a Canadian us with try and support.
13:44:12 While you could add my name to it but I'm not sure I have time to do any work on next week.
13:44:18 I think Rita was kind of interested.
13:44:23 So, all right, well, let's, let's work on that I guess.
13:44:34 Ross Do you.
13:44:31 Are you willing to work on this. I'm willing to work on it as long as I'm not the only person working on it.