09:56:31 Richard.
09:56:36 Hey, Doug.
09:56:42 Yeah, sorry, six, expect the do he reports, good to be given to Karen now.
09:56:53 We, I sent it to her on on Sunday night number.
09:56:57 That was what prompted all this thing about this TV.
09:57:00 Yeah, okay. So,
09:57:04 are you going to send a new version or.
09:57:08 No, I don't think so. I mean I'm more interested in substantive, you know criticism about the narrative and things. Yeah.
09:57:17 I'm pretty sure the review process at MIT will look at all the little rules and regulations.
09:57:26 Yeah.
09:57:28 Now these bio sketches at least the one away I made it is a terrible nuisance.
09:57:34 Yeah, I found this thing on like a template on Overleaf and just kind of fudge that a bit. Yeah, no, it's,
09:57:49 it's like one of the box. Have you taken.
09:57:52 Yeah.
09:58:05 So we managed to get vaccination appointments on Thursday I leave myself and David.
09:58:11 Oh, that's good. So good. Why should want Walgreen Medford, for David and myself I need has to go a little bit out into the middle of the state, but.
09:58:22 Okay.
09:58:28 Well that's faster than me. I am next week.
09:58:30 Well I had an appointment with Lady and the 19 so yeah I'm gonna soon as I get backstage I'm going to cancel that. But yeah, I think all the Walgreens, for sure and CBS.
09:58:42 If you have an account on them.
09:58:44 Just go on there, put them up in the morning and.
09:58:50 So I think this thing is, I think everybody's going to get vaccinated by.
09:58:56 I don't know early May or may Yeah, yeah, I would guess. Anyway, everybody wants it. Yeah.
09:59:06 I've been trying to get ahold of Kenneth evidently there's a surplus of vaccines in Toronto at the moment that they can't.
09:59:15 They can't book all the appointment times they have available.
09:59:23 So, I would like him to get vaccinated as soon as possible. Yeah.
09:59:31 I have a pizza.
09:59:37 Hi.
09:59:41 I see their infection raging Croatia is really high.
09:59:47 this is normal I was yesterday in Zagreb, and like when I was smoking through main square.
09:59:54 And, like, two people have like 200, wear a mask, including me, so nothing. This is not a surprise.
10:00:05 This is to be expected.
10:00:12 But it was very nice sunny day.
10:00:19 It was like working time and cafes terraces of cafes were full. Yeah, you know, that speciality in Zagreb
10:00:32 foreigners, ask themselves do those people work at all.
10:00:46 We got a reprimand in the department because apparently some folks around the physics building are now being pretty cavalier about having been vaccinated and no longer wearing their masks, which is a not a great thing to show and be, you know, a little
10:01:04 bit, the point where you know you're trying to, you could still be contagious, you can still be contagious so you can still catch yourself a variant. Yeah, we don't we don't have this thing.
10:01:17 Corral to the point we should be doing that I'm just I'm disappointed in my peers, for it, you know, these folks should know better
10:01:30 see we're missing Jaan.
10:01:34 I wonder if he's tied up in the core meeting.
10:01:38 And I don't see anybody else. Okay, everyone else seems to be here.
10:01:44 Steve is missing.
10:01:46 So let's Why don't we get started.
10:01:50 So, capex I don't have anything new. I'm going to write to the theorists get them to write letters of support.
10:02:00 We're working on the Monte Carlo, though rather slowly, I must say.
10:02:07 But since we're not going to the PRC I guess there's a general feeling that there's no urgency so
10:02:16 need to do something to keep up the work, though.
10:02:25 Olympus nothing new.
10:02:29 letter was sent off PRL accepted it, it's been published.
10:02:36 Amen.
10:02:38 Why don't we switch to minds. Yeah, so I don't have very surprising update. I've been working on optimizing the details in that analysis. I talked to young yesterday.
10:02:55 We think it's at the moment said, we probably need to talk to your minds experts, again, updating my status to see if they are, they have any inputs into that.
10:03:08 I think the main issue right now is that we probably need another measurement of the, of the.
10:03:20 It's called Steve slit measurement. It's basically want to do some measurement to figure out the details of the transformation matrix of the spectrometer.
10:03:31 And this measurement, have to be done like visually.
10:03:36 We need to like remove the target chamber. Looking to the spectrometer to do such a measurement for our calibration.
10:03:44 So far I don't see like very promising hope that I can do it without the measurements, brother doing only optimization and analysis.
10:03:54 So, we will talk to people in mind, to see what they say.
10:03:59 And if it's possible to fit us such a calibration measurements in the near future.
10:04:06 Okay, are they running nights are they shut down.
10:04:10 I think they shut down. Yeah, but this is a measurement of without, without a be.
10:04:16 Yeah, yeah.
10:04:21 Okay.
10:04:24 A young, I see you joined so anything you want to add. Oh that's that's pretty much it.
10:04:30 Okay, so he submitted backlight.
10:04:48 Yeah, I was just about to say that have I've not heard anything back from triumph, so. Yeah, Me neither.
10:04:46 Okay.
10:04:49 Anyway they went through the review it's the second.
10:04:57 So, yeah, I got an email from triumph that I haven't completed my safety course.
10:05:05 I did this this morning.
10:05:07 Easy. Is it okay, good.
10:05:10 I didn't get one. They don't think I'm expelled. And have you signed up to be a user or something I think we had to do that as part of the proposal so much.
10:05:20 Okay, Good, good.
10:05:23 No, no, don't bother.
10:05:26 They said we only had to sign up the spokes people was sufficient for who's going to show up at who's on the collaboration otherwise it was a full list.
10:05:38 Yeah, Richard.
10:05:42 Huh. Okay.
10:05:45 So, I have noticed that I got an email. In January, I from Jayla that they need to finish a report for the fellowship Pac fellowship.
10:05:57 I noticed this today I'm sorry for this I don't worry.
10:06:02 I will send it. I will send it to you so if somebody needs to sign it from MIT, somebody from jail up. Okay, sure, sure. I have just finished it. Okay, great.
10:06:13 Yeah, okay. Sorry about this.
10:06:18 Okay, is there any other discussion on
10:06:24 dark light.
10:06:28 Then.
10:06:31 Any news from EIC or fJ or core.
10:06:38 Well, we're going to have a simulations workshop I guess on Friday for hJ.
10:06:43 So I think
10:06:50 I, you know, I don't know if Igor or gesturing or veto are available to lead some of that I think, I think the idea is to start getting going on on simulations.
10:07:06 Yeah, I think Richard is very important the meeting. Friday. I intend to attend.
10:07:13 Okay, good. Yeah.
10:07:15 When is this on Friday.
10:07:21 Yeah, me too. You know, four days away so
10:07:29 we try and find that it's Good Friday in fact.
10:07:34 Yeah, it'd be a great Friday.
10:07:37 I mean, I heard it will be based on fun for all or something like this
10:07:48 have so many emails. I see at a simulation at 7am. On the second of April,
10:08:00 via Iowa State's zoom.
10:08:02 Yeah, I guess john Lajoie. Yeah.
10:08:08 I might sign up for that.
10:08:12 So, a minor gripe about Copa times is.
10:08:16 I'm actually, I'm at Marianna in Italy right now. Technically, Of course they're just sitting at home but stuck in this situation where there's so many overlapping things and I can still try to do them all whereas it her actually in Italy, this is just
10:08:32 be impossible.
10:08:38 I you'd be skiing, you be doing well. Yes, I would be relaxing in a way.
10:08:43 Okay, I found that I'm forwarding it.
10:08:46 Okay.
10:08:57 Thanks.
10:08:52 Okay. Ah,
10:08:57 what else, there was something else I wanted to raise for EMC
10:09:06 escapes me now.
10:09:09 Ah.
10:09:18 Just one thing, regarding Indigo it should now be working with.
10:09:21 Outside users being able to log in.
10:09:26 The, as long as you've got Edu Rome, running, so that's progress.
10:09:38 And the other thing is, there is a seminar at noon today by
10:09:48 Mark bro ring on
10:09:55 neutron media measurement.
10:10:00 Okay that was all I had any thing else before we go to class drove.
10:10:07 I'm just back the EIC.
10:10:09 I mean, with the simulations and, you know, I guess I'm also involved on the proposal, coordinating the edge a proposal writing.
10:10:18 I think an issue, a paramount issue obviously is to define a science focus and, at least the way I think about that we've kind of got to focus on maybe for something like for kind of main science goals principal science goals.
10:10:39 And yeah, we'll have to see how I mean I have,
10:10:43 I think, in general, they're fairly obvious i think but there might be some, you know, difference of opinion on which one to emphasize more than than other, which is fine.
10:10:54 But one of the things I started to think about was you know if you turn on a machine for the first time like there what it what exactly would you want to measure.
10:11:04 And it struck me that on the first the first opportunity, one would scatter a unpasteurized electron from an unpasteurized proton.
10:11:16 And you basically wanted to determine the reaction mechanism of how the electron interacts with the proton.
10:11:24 In the different channels so you have the inclusive, for example. So, what I'm really interested in is the is the Ltd composition of how the virtual photon interacts with the proton.
10:11:38 So, one of the, I think the very last thing that Hara did the collider experiments was to measure, FL, which is really sensitive to go on distribution.
10:11:49 And you have to do that it's it's basically a Rosenbluth separation again you have to do it a several energies I think in the end it's three I dug out the papers.
10:12:00 But then going to like semi and close up and deeply virtual exclusive, the kinds of reactions particularly that the students are analyzing for their theses in class 12.
10:12:13 I mean, you would be interested to determine again the LT you know the various contributions to the process.
10:12:24 Where does factorization work I mean the thing basically the issue that Igor raised with his analysis recently.
10:12:35 So I don't know I mean I was thinking, you know I don't see anybody else really thinking about this everybody's kind of running off to kind of make a program and imaging, you know, which is fine but if you, if you're going to do a program in imaging.
10:12:49 You better know the reaction mechanism and you have to know where the kinematics in which things. Obey factorization, we're scaling applies, and you don't need.
10:13:00 You can't just do imaging like you know, straight away so at least that's my opinion. So I don't know I'm just starting to think about this, something.
10:13:09 Maybe we could, as a group,
10:13:13 focus on, you know, and I actually think it's kind of universal I think any detector that turns on with the IC will want to do this.
10:13:30 So I don't know, that's just someone having a bad time ties in very nicely with the electromagnetic color imagery, small angles in the electron direction.
10:13:39 Yeah.
10:13:42 So I mean what I was thinking was to is to look at that, I would look at the D is inclusive.
10:13:51 Look at cintas certainly, he prime pi n k.
10:13:55 And then look at the deeply virtual I would focus on the VCs I'm not, I mean they're kind of the dominant one so maybe take though, I mean you can of course you can expand this to other channels you can expand it to nuclei, but I just thought, start with
10:14:09 the proton, everything on polarized and try and develop, you know, a run plan, I guess is what I'm trying to say what energies, what probably integrated luminosity you know you got we have to make some assumptions about what the what the luminosity that
10:14:25 big turns on ad but you know, I think we can do that.
10:14:30 And kind of current events you know and see how we would determine across the reaction mechanism really
10:14:43 experimentally.
10:14:46 Yeah. Anyway, so we can think about think about this.
10:14:52 I think if we work it out, it could be used by all the, all the proposals, you know. Yeah, that's my feeling.
10:15:04 I did you attend the core meeting.
10:15:15 Possibly, it's continuing now Right. Yes, I know, I know, but yesterday was the overview when I looked at the agenda and.
10:15:29 Yeah.
10:15:32 I think that today is mostly more details
10:15:38 Yeah, obvious to me that they had any special session for streaming readout. No, no, no.
10:15:50 But I still try to listen in if I have to teach today and I have another thing at 11 so i i don't have very limited time to attend this, so if you have some time after this.
10:16:04 I've got a meeting at 12. That's that seminar, that's.
10:16:13 yeah.
10:16:15 Okay. The other thing is that, do we want to have any rehearsals, next week for the APS talks.
10:16:27 Are you going to do those in the DBS meeting D VCs meeting.
10:16:35 Right, that's some have to prepare that
10:16:40 I was so this is mostly for class 12 and the students, we're going to have on Monday, April five we're going to reverse the T Beck's presentations for for APS.
10:16:59 So I've got to write my talk and evade says gotta talk. And
10:17:07 again, as a talk.
10:17:11 As to dark side.
10:17:14 Okay.
10:17:19 Ah, Well, anything else before going into class 12.
10:17:28 Okay.
10:17:31 Take care everyone then.
10:17:34 Bye bye.
10:17:37 See you later.
10:17:38 Bye.
10:17:39 Bye.
10:17:45 Okay, so did, we want to say anything about rehearsals for the three graduate students.
10:17:57 I guess. Yeah, so we have to give one at the Thursday deep processes meeting.
10:18:04 So, so yeah well already beginning one there I don't know that we need to do on here, but I'm sure if you're giving one and get feedback I think that's fine.
10:18:18 Yeah, that's fine.
10:18:18 So let's see. So we resumed the weekly Wednesday noon meeting now the deeply virtual meeting tomorrow.
10:18:28 I think Volker is setting up the blue jeans thing So Sam back you're going to talk tomorrow.
10:18:35 Yeah. Yes, I think so.
10:18:39 Can you hear me.
10:19:03 the timeline for a PC Pro is pretty close so I have to. And I think tomorrow is kind of important more informal, I mean it's an update, I think you do have, I mean you've certainly showed us resolve, you know I think sharing what you just showed us with
10:19:13 the broader group would be good, I think.
10:19:16 Yep, that's all you know and i don't i don't think anybody expects you to talk for an hour but I think just sharing the results.
10:19:28 That's what I thought it.
10:19:31 A DMP but some people expect is some level of formality. at this meeting so I was kind of.
10:19:40 Yeah, not expected but some people yelled at me that this is different your presentation slides are not that great.
10:19:51 But I didn't want to make it too much. What a vacation and slides before I make a final finalize one so probably this time I will bring a low quality slides to, and then.
10:20:04 Welcome, some people yelling at me about that.
10:20:08 Yeah, well I think the important thing are the results that you know show the results label the axes, you know i mean by now.
10:20:16 You know this crowd you know just label things make it clear what you did, you know, just write down the data, the data set. Caught you know just the things people want to know what data we used what cuts were applied what corrections were applied why
10:20:33 corrections remain yeah i think that's it and you just give a status report.
10:20:37 I think it's fairly standard, at this point.
10:20:42 That's great. Yeah, I can do that. How long did you think you want we're going to talk tomorrow I mean how many slides or.
10:20:51 I'm not sure, um, I mean just roughly.
10:20:56 More than 20 minutes or something is better.
10:21:00 Probably 30 minutes. Okay, all right,
10:21:06 All right, waiting for people to yell at me. Preaching because.
10:21:11 So one hour.
10:21:13 Is this my entire life.
10:21:15 Yeah, well it's just, you know, the some yelling is not send you want to avoid that, like, if people get confused about what you're showing that's not productive for anybody.
10:21:26 So if you can be clear about what you're showing, I mean okay some people will go off on some tangent about you. Oh, you didn't use the right correction fine okay but as long as you're clear what you did, what remains to be done, you know,
10:21:42 I think would be good.
10:21:47 Sounds good.
10:21:52 And then next week, I think, Bobby and just saying is that right.
10:21:57 Yep, that's right.
10:21:59 Yeah, okay.
10:22:01 Yeah, it's actually, it's good to get, I mean, that people know what you're doing, and you are you guys are all working so it's good to
10:22:14 inform them.
10:22:16 Was there anything from the analysis anybody wanted to bring up.
10:22:23 I can just give it 22nd
10:22:28 just update. Yeah I'm currently just debugging some Fortran code in our analysis me last week we determined. There's one piece of software that needs to get fixed by someone, and it's critical in order to be able to have the pie not generator to fix this
10:22:49 this software thing before being able to have the pipe generator run a lot faster on the farms, and so we determined on Friday our group here just to try and fix it ourselves.
10:23:01 So I'm not sure if they make I think you mentioned, you might do some work on it, I actually didn't check anything you see what you're doing but I basically have it running now and I'm just kind of debugging a few things on our firm so anyway so then
10:23:12 Besides that, I have some high statistics in a small kinematic been that I'm trying to analyze and hope will have some things to discuss on Friday, so that's all for me.
10:23:24 Okay.
10:23:26 This is on my list, actually.
10:23:29 So you will describe how your.
10:23:34 The status about the planets are in a generator
10:23:38 that other person could have a loop to check with GKX or connects limits. If of all. First time users go to, which is not that great but, but, fortunately, okay, too.
10:23:57 if, if that the if the condition does not satisfy the cooker jerk next nasty range, and then it goes to some line to start over to sample, because curiosity is reconnects again.
10:24:13 So, the thing. This is why you need.
10:24:17 I know weird part is at the system Rowley I can also work on that for myself or is can you where it is, but mostly I'm just preparing for tomorrow's presentation so I can do it after that.
10:24:40 Okay, sounds good yeah let's talk on slack. I think would be good.
10:24:51 Good. Drake any update.
10:24:54 So as far as finances I have just been working on APS stuff we have. On Monday we have to submit a analysis note to the working group. So I've just been working on that and also just, just for service task.
10:25:13 the.
10:25:13 we're writing a paper.
10:25:15 You know, Marco of integrity area and bunch of other lists Italian folks for the streaming readout.
10:25:22 I was just doing some of the analysis for the February streaming react Ron so so yeah we're kind of finalizing that and writing up the paper, but um yeah so there's, there's my class 12 updates
10:25:37 shushing.
10:25:38 Yeah, so, um, I got the Monte Carlo.
10:25:46 Interactive Mode.
10:25:50 Basically, working here.
10:25:54 Basically, working here with all the other issues, developed together with Maury, and currently I'm trying to get some occupational rage for the number from the
10:26:08 simulations. Yeah, and also for the Pi Zero generator uploaded to the west Jeep web portal, we need to need more he will finish is.
10:26:25 I think he mentioned that there are some emergency issue on the part, and he need to resolve that first or within this week, or the next.
10:26:38 Before we can do anything else for related to the Osg. And also we need to wait for Andrew to fix a minor issue for the generator so I think that's the progress on that side.
10:26:56 Good.
10:26:58 Good.
10:27:04 Hey last week, again, too much because of the workshops that I was attending.
10:27:11 In general, I'm working they started to work on their presentations and they need to give it the leaf during next month.
10:27:21 And trying to find additional staff that can help them so not as it's like opening candle between the photo then the knockout is a problem, but because of the high end the job, the problems, something can get me.
10:27:36 It's not enough to separate to reduce the contamination, the VCs by zero.
10:27:46 Of course you
10:27:46 don't get into. Yeah, good.
10:27:51 Yeah, I got your email about the analysis I'll take a look at it.
10:28:04 Good.
10:28:08 Yeah, I don't think,
10:28:13 think of anything else, this point, we've got our three or no Well done, Doug and I so Karen's reviewing it so
10:28:25 ball carrier just sent out a big announcement for this meeting. Yeah.
10:28:31 Yeah.
10:28:42 All right.
10:28:47 So,
10:28:50 I guess we'll, we'll meet tomorrow at noon time. Yeah.
10:28:56 I'm just, just to remind people that if you want to make presentations at this meeting, rather than just sharing your screen.
10:29:08 you can upload things to the Indiegogo site.
10:29:13 And, you know, then they're reserved.
10:29:20 Yeah, no, I think, even if they're presented they should be uploaded letter or something, I have a record.
10:29:27 I'm recording these meetings so if you show us something live that recorded as well and, and I upload the recording and the closed captioning to the Indiegogo site after the meeting.