10:02:31 Good morning.
10:02:33 I
10:02:38 ok I got a message from Igor, and Steve Stedman.
10:02:45 They would be late if they make it.
10:02:49 So I think we're all here now.
10:02:53 So why don't we get started.
10:03:05 Amen any updates.
10:02:59 Not really. So, They were able to enter the whole and take some pictures from a window behind the spectrometer to look into that.
10:03:11 And I got a picture from them. I got a photos from them last week, and the lighting they used.
10:03:19 I cannot see clearly the ads of the kilometer. At this moment, so I will talk to them. This Friday again to see if they can take the same picture with slight different lighting so that I can see where the animator is from the picture and to just to check
10:03:41 if this
10:03:44 agrees with what I have in the data.
10:03:47 So currently,
10:03:53 I have photos like this.
10:03:55 We are, it's, we are seeing from the back of the spectrometer into it, and along the direction of acceptance. And in this lighting week. It's hard to tell weird horizontal kilometer is at.
10:04:10 So, I hope they can like you slightly different lighting so that I can at least some, some edges of the column header just to compare it with the data.
10:04:25 Yeah.
10:04:26 Yeah.
10:04:28 Okay. What's the purpose for curiosity, what's the perforated sheet.
10:04:36 Which one.
10:04:37 Well then that picture there is what looks like a sheet of metal with a lot of holes in it. Yeah. This helps us do the field mapping.
10:04:48 Right, yeah. I see yeah I understand. Okay.
10:04:54 Good.
10:04:54 Okay. Anything else for minds Yon.
10:05:00 No, no, not really.
10:05:01 Okay.
10:05:04 Um, I don't think there's anything new on Tupac.
10:05:08 I haven't heard back about testing schedule it's still blank on the daisy website.
10:05:17 And we're working on the paper.
10:05:24 I don't know if it's a few. I think what we're waiting for his or a pizza or somebody to make the plots all in a standard format.
10:05:39 You know Mathematica would be fine if, as long as the fonts and the
10:05:46 fonts size and font type were improved and the lines improved.
10:05:54 I think, I don't know, a pizza, you want to make No, I'll do it, I'll do it but I didn't have time right now I was focused on the stuffing creation, which is what they need to do with our grip so I started my position few weeks ago, on the first of May.
10:06:15 So, I was extremely busy with that thing so after this gets cleared, in some sense, I will, I will, I will finish these blogs and and send it an email when I will I will do it.
10:06:30 Yeah. Okay, great. sorry about this.
10:06:37 You know, we're reporting on something that was in 2019 so.
10:06:44 Okay, um, any, any anything new on dark light.
10:06:55 Yeah, I mean we had a meeting Ross and yon and I with your friends and Oliver and Thomas last week which one well on these questions, so.
10:07:06 So I think this week we subgroup of us will meet.
10:07:12 I guess from the collaboration site on Thursday at two o'clock to, to talk about things.
10:07:20 Yeah I spoke with excellent yesterday, actually.
10:07:25 And, but he's not on back like we spoke about you, he.
10:07:29 And he also like me had a proposal in last September, and he never heard anything from push on. Yeah, he medical English I never replied.
10:07:48 Until Briscoe asked for an extension of his grants, which was not granted because he is a marriage us, but push on Titan Bell if you have another colleague, you can extend it.
10:07:53 So he asked. Excellent. And this way excellent had a chance to talk to both Sean and coach on Twitter and oh yeah by the way your other proposal, I never send any of those out because I have no money, and I'm not sure I will have any money this year for
10:08:07 that, for anything of the new parameters.
10:08:11 So, and they never told anybody. So, all new proposals from from the last funding year were never sent out for you.
10:08:23 Right.
10:08:24 So this means that i don't know i mean if he has any money.
10:08:30 There's will be a long backlog.
10:08:33 So I mean for you it's a it's a continuation of a grand so it's probably easier, but I think we need to really think about other venues for money.
10:08:47 Well I unprofessional. Tonight we have, we have our renewal in Okay, which is not requesting money for dark light that Ariel.
10:08:57 It's on other things so I sent him to Pac report last week but in here. So, that's all I know.
10:09:09 So I'm, I'm wondering if I should write an NSF career yeah what grant type of thing, which I wouldn't have to do next month, I guess.
10:09:22 And
10:09:22 so that's that's maybe one day, I mean all these things are,
10:09:28 you know, it's hard to know.
10:09:31 I think it's funny.
10:09:33 This was all these things take some time to settle into the system.
10:09:38 I think we want to talk about on Thursday as well we can do going forward to design going we want to design the experiment I think certainly from our side from it, we can work on that.
10:09:54 And then we'll see.
10:09:57 I mean just not very happy to somebody not sending out any review requests well i mean i don't know if you remember my experience with him.
10:10:13 It fits the picture. It's totally consistent. So, yeah, Look.
10:10:15 Maybe what he did was right in the sense that if he sent out all the proposals to be reviewed, you know in the end he couldn't fund them so now you know there's no history that he rejected them so I don't know, no no it's fine that he doesn't send it
10:10:36 out, that he doesn't tell anybody and everybody waits Well, Yeah, right.
10:10:46 But that's what we deal with. We did you know we just.
10:10:50 I think we should focus on a near term of what we, you know, the people who are.
10:10:56 I've worked on this can do to move along, you know, I think we should we should be able to do that design experiment and finalize that, you know,
10:11:08 then we can push. I mean, the other thing is if once everything is technically I think we spend some time working with try and we have a more integrated proposal and the Canadians, that will also help us you know.
10:11:24 So
10:11:24 the fact that if Canada's kind of a triumph for committing to this and then I know that forces us fun again so you know this is, this is an old game you just you just keep your cool and keep going and I can, I can say about what you, you know, in terms
10:11:39 of
10:11:42 early career or whatever, you know, it might be a good idea I don't, you know, I have to think about it but you could also talk to the NSF. Yeah, I could see you were talking I was suddenly said something and either even dark light on to this right i
10:11:57 mean i have a proposal ready to go, essentially, because I said that in September just have to update it, that could send that in, and the impacts, which I'm sure I can.
10:12:14 And, but yeah I've been talking over this other, but I think it's it's good to be aware that I mean for everybody who wants to put in a new proposal at the OE media manager, energy, I think that will be a big fight right because essentially essentially
10:12:36 then this year, two generations two years of proposals. Yeah.
10:12:36 Oh, interesting. Okay.
10:12:41 And I don't know how other fields are. So, I mean maybe document should not go to media manager anyway. Maybe that's, that's the thing I asked her discussion, he may send us the fundamentals some interest which is fine, you know, so did you reply at all.
10:12:57 No, he didn't.
10:13:01 I mean I'm not gonna get, as he said I think we engage, we work on this work with trying for a good Canadian groups keep I'm I'm I got to forget about him I mean if at some point he doesn't answer then I will go to Tim Holman I grew up the food chain
10:13:13 of ball I called non contact him Hall and maybe there are ways we can bring some, some pressure one but right now I just smaller.
10:13:32 Yeah. No, sir.
10:13:32 I'm young, Have you spoken yet with Marianne more.
10:13:40 I did not,
10:13:42 you know, be good a few and Ross could set up a meeting or is there. Yeah, yeah, maybe next week I'm super busy this week but next week. couldn't be better.
10:13:53 Now, just send me a reminder,
10:13:57 maybe tell me Friday.
10:14:11 Should we reschedule the virtual beer.
10:14:16 That would be great.
10:14:29 And I start at three o'clock so that your neighbor aided by the yeah that's that's good, that that would actually work really well. Yeah, I don't know, we'll, we'll see what other people think.
10:14:33 Yeah, Richard and I can meet at the black horse again.
10:14:41 Okay, uh, anything on EICHA or
10:14:50 oz you're on. Not Yeah, I guess, his.
10:15:05 He said he would be late. No,
10:15:00 no I missed it there was an exclusive meeting that I missed.
10:15:06 But yeah, I mean, people.
10:15:09 I mean, I know, maybe judging Do you know anything, I mean I know codes are running, I think.
10:15:18 Yeah.
10:15:19 Yeah, nothing, Nothing you
10:15:28 go
10:15:27 to meetings and discussions, but
10:15:34 I think it's it's going well in the sense that it's organized and their groups and their simulations being done and
10:15:43 we'll see. Yeah,
10:15:47 I guess there's the quarterly meeting of the iOS user group this Thursday at 10 o'clock.
10:15:55 That's on anybody's radar screen but we kind of reports from different consortium collaboration there.
10:16:05 Okay.
10:16:09 Anything on.
10:16:12 Also we got.
10:16:18 No, I'm
10:16:25 sorry. What's left is class 12 and.
10:16:28 Yeah.
10:16:30 Alright, so I guess we'll, we'll talk on Thursday at two so I'll send out a reminder, but think postdocs it'd be good. I'm not sure if I include, we had some email exchange, but even just saying, it'd be good.
10:16:47 I mean, anybody who's got some cycles to work on this going forward be good.
10:16:54 No I haven't made that list that you requested yet. That's all right. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Sorry, sorry, I think I missed it. What was this on Thursday.
10:17:04 We going to have a meeting.
10:17:08 Basically, of the people who've been active from from the collaboration on the dark light experiment a trial to talk about going forward.
10:17:19 I mean, we're going to have, I think, a regular. I mean, that's something actually we need to have Institute is some regular weekly meeting on the experiment.
10:17:28 But we probably will do that and within a week or two, a lot of bringing the Canadians but I thought it would be good for us to, you know, the people who've worked on this for a long, long time to kind of understand what we want to do what we want to
10:17:42 have happen. Let's and through the summer or something.
10:17:45 Sure, I think that's a great idea. We've talked to Jim and Arnie and I think they're ready to put some effort into it, you know, to complete the design I mean we did, we had a kind of an intensive effort up to the proposal which was sufficient, but it
10:18:00 was certainly not finalized, and I think we want to put a more a larger yeah get more people involved.
10:18:11 For for three three to four months timescale to kind of finalize it, the design and the simulation. So, we've also had discussions about moving
10:18:28 a target and maybe even the complete experimental apparatus that was used at the HVRL experiment, as a test experiment.
10:18:39 So we have to look at that, it's an interesting idea we actually brought it up with the triumph, people and they they liked it.
10:18:47 But.
10:18:51 So that's all that apparatus is all sitting in the vault of the URL. And so, Jim was going to look into getting the equipment back to base that has a complete beam line apart a foil and had had a carbon target but of course that can be changed, and then
10:19:17 is focusing spectrometer which, you know, operator for three MeV beam. So, we have to look into energies and let's what's possible but it looked like something that could be implemented, you know, any funding probably by the end of the year calendar year
10:19:26 or something at trial in the beam line that might be useful.
10:19:35 So,
10:19:40 okay.
10:19:43 So if there's nothing else. Let's move on to class thrill.
10:19:49 Okay. Talk to you later guys Thank you, Bye Bye. Bye.
10:19:56 Bye.
10:19:59 So, as usual, let's go around saying back to wanna have an update
10:20:10 as well numbers of different services side.
10:20:21 Now, the hero or cancelled because Murray found a problem with the simulation.
10:20:30 Well this is a new sales but
10:20:34 things. The problem is that is not on the course but on the transferring files from, say left farms to do with two farms, including in a difference. So, I think, is a debug because
10:20:58 As I mean time probably I can work on ready to record. We're prepared for it.
10:21:05 Oh,
10:21:07 okay. Yeah. Well, it's not good that there's a bug but it's good that it was found and it gets fixed so it's life.
10:21:19 It's like a very issues borderline between alpha far transferring between farms. So, yeah.
10:21:35 Not sure if that would be fixed insurers historic amount of times, but anyway he's working on, he wants to stop all the jobs, while has working. Okay.
10:21:48 Alright, sounds good.
10:21:50 Bobby, you want to go next.
10:21:52 Yeah sure, you can hear me. Right. Yeah, that'd be great.
10:21:57 Yeah. So a couple things.
10:22:01 Nothing major.
10:22:04 But basically, on one side. So last week we discussed.
10:22:10 I'm not entirely sure that I understand exactly what it is that class six was recording. So, and trying to understand that better haven't come to the conclusions, but Igor sent me a few papers I've been going back and forth with him a little bit.
10:22:30 Yeah, I think that's all I'll say about that right now. And then on the other side.
10:22:35 I guess another facet.
10:22:37 My just started out at the technical level, my code that I've been using. I've really only analyzed. I've been kind of restricting this just took a small number of kinematic bins, and, you know, in principle, there's like a, like a few hundred or 2000
10:22:55 thousand cinematic Ben's, so I'm just starting to spend some time, changing my software over to be able to, you know, map out the whole base base of the reaction, and some of the smaller kinds of them.
10:23:07 And the last thing is gearing up to push and licious through for the larger number of bits, but as I said it's kind of a positive now so. Okay, so, nothing, nothing too drastic.
10:23:27 Okay, good.
10:23:33 Thanks Bobby, Patrick.
10:23:32 Yeah, so, had a bit of a wrench thrown in like saying I was saying with the simulation but I started looking at trying to replicate Brandon's teams fitness industry measurement.
10:23:48 And so right now just trying to like replicate the some of the cuts that he used for his analysis.
10:23:55 I do want to ask, Brandon, maybe we could talk about it offline if that's easier but just like you're the like the heavy, the lambda very on customer you placed.
10:24:05 You kind of mentioned making like this box cut around them maybe we can talk about exactly how kind of exactly the parameters you use for that cut.
10:24:15 Sure, yeah we can talk about that offline. That's fine. Okay. Sounds good.
10:24:24 Yeah that's that's pretty much where I'm at just trying to work on the fitness industry.
10:24:28 Yeah, no, I think that's a good, good plan, I think it's a good cross check, you know, once you check it out, or as you check it out, you may learn things, so it's gives you confidence going forward.
10:24:42 Yeah, good at
10:24:44 judging.
10:24:44 Yes. So, so this this afternoon, we supposed to have the meeting together with Mari. Yeah, you're on my calendar. Yeah. So, I hope to send out the zoning because he released another me the link.
10:25:05 Everytime few minutes before the meeting on the group chatting software, because the link. I think differs from each meeting. I will remind to send out through our email.
10:25:21 Email channel.
10:25:23 Okay, I'll watch for that.
10:25:35 Yeah.
10:25:29 So, yes, I continue with the computing holdings in.
10:25:35 I think I got into a new kind of
10:25:43 like topic. So, the east, in, in order to extract the CPU hours or car hours, but from the side information I think I got some clue to do that hopefully I will have a completed framework by these days.
10:26:11 And I also work with streams about my getting to the lab.
10:26:22 So, like, we still safety trainings.
10:26:24 I just found that my because my passport expired like a month ago so I cannot do a new registration, but Jim said we can work around that. To avoid in your registration and get into the lab.
10:26:45 I will.
10:26:47 We work with streams on that. Yeah.
10:26:51 and you get a new passport through the man.
10:26:54 And you get a new passport through the man. I am yes I'm in the process of renewing the password since late April, because the shadow of the China Chinese embassy and everything is going very slowly this day so
10:27:12 yeah that's a issue is this passport. Yeah.
10:27:19 Good.
10:27:20 Right.
10:27:24 know if there's anything else.
10:27:29 Anything for the computer or computing.
10:27:34 Bob Marley has asked to me to buy the 230 they had a regular computing mini one morning but he wanted me to be there or something so we got to talk about stuff and yeah i mean i bought last conversation with Christophe said he said, you know, wait till
10:27:51 late some period of time till maybe things are clearer and unless I hear different that's what I would do at this point.
10:28:03 And you know there's obviously still,
10:28:07 you know, issues with making what we've got work,
10:28:16 buying our.
10:28:18 Oh hi Igor, you're here was late. No problem. Yeah, good, good, could you could make it. Yeah.
10:28:26 So we were just talking, Doug asked about computing so I guess I have this meeting today with Morrie I guess you'll be there and yeah definitely yes so yeah so I think for now.
10:28:38 The plan is to plan but the perspective is to just wait, but we'll see today maybe he he argues strongly we should buy four cores or something I don't know, we'll see.
10:28:57 Okay, So, Igor did you do want to update.
10:29:03 A, there is no much top date in the exclusive was he working group where we continue to.
10:29:12 I started to use a generators and try to get a Miller 3d generator, but they wait to reply from Salvatori but importantly, I can runs a generator and then implement this file for all the simulation for a chair, and it's running.
10:29:45 But in order to reproduce the plots from yellow reports from yellow report I need the middle Sweetie, generator. Yeah, we'll get it a by the end of this week, hopefully.
10:29:47 Yes, right.
10:29:50 But, but it's going forward.
10:29:52 Very good.
10:29:57 So,
10:30:02 yeah, so I guess they're trying to attract you to become some convener is that right and.
10:30:23 And, yes, dog asked me that he asked through or if I want to be energy, but to be a convener for a detectable probably do it. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, it's good leader leadership position and
10:30:34 you're doing work anyway so you just got to go to more meetings, it's all.
10:30:44 Is it broadens as a meeting, you know randomly distributed.
10:30:47 The EPA is. It's like, There's always something. Yeah, it's a blur.
10:30:55 But it's actually all going pretty well. There's a lot going on and yeah there's some arguing but in general, that's pretty positive, I think people are all trying to get to the same place so it's good.
10:31:14 All right, so 230 today the computer meeting, I guess we'll have our usual meetings in the afternoon tomorrow, eager and judging and Thursday afternoon will have this meeting on doc light, and Friday.
10:31:33 We will have our ritual more.
10:31:40 Okay, sounds good.